Comments on: Random Consulting Thoughts http://www.contrarianconsulting.com/random-consulting-thoughts/ Architect of Professional Communities® | Alan's Blog Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:34:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Alan Weiss http://www.contrarianconsulting.com/random-consulting-thoughts/#comment-2192 Alan Weiss Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:32:32 +0000 http://www.contrarianconsulting.com/random-consulting-thoughts/#comment-2192 I'd remind you that recruiting, comp, etc. are more and more outsourced and treated as commodities in terms of value. No one develops consultants more than I do and no one has more diverse offerings. But I've never considered it "training." There is no "process of consulting." There are many processes and models that excellent consultants can call upon and use for synergy. But nothing beats common sense. If you could "train" consultants, there'd be far more good ones.... I’d remind you that recruiting, comp, etc. are more and more outsourced and treated as commodities in terms of value. No one develops consultants more than I do and no one has more diverse offerings. But I’ve never considered it “training.” There is no “process of consulting.” There are many processes and models that excellent consultants can call upon and use for synergy. But nothing beats common sense. If you could “train” consultants, there’d be far more good ones….

]]> By: Ginny McMinn http://www.contrarianconsulting.com/random-consulting-thoughts/#comment-2190 Ginny McMinn Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:35:27 +0000 http://www.contrarianconsulting.com/random-consulting-thoughts/#comment-2190 There is technical content I would expect a consultant to know. For example, in HR, there are many technical areas (recruiting, compensation, etc.) that a consultant should know. Training in one's area of expertise. It is also possible to receive training in the process of consulting, making it more advantageous for the client and more profitable for the consultant. There is technical content I would expect a consultant to know. For example, in HR, there are many technical areas (recruiting, compensation, etc.) that a consultant should know. Training in one’s area of expertise. It is also possible to receive training in the process of consulting, making it more advantageous for the client and more profitable for the consultant.

]]> By: Alan Weiss http://www.contrarianconsulting.com/random-consulting-thoughts/#comment-2189 Alan Weiss Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:54:41 +0000 http://www.contrarianconsulting.com/random-consulting-thoughts/#comment-2189 Whose training? In what? Responding situationally, as you point out is important, is really a matter of judgment and experience, not training. Whose training? In what? Responding situationally, as you point out is important, is really a matter of judgment and experience, not training.

]]> By: Ginny McMinn http://www.contrarianconsulting.com/random-consulting-thoughts/#comment-2188 Ginny McMinn Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:39:26 +0000 http://www.contrarianconsulting.com/random-consulting-thoughts/#comment-2188 Experience AND training are key to offering great service to clients and building a great consulting practice. It is important to be able to respond to each set of circumstances and needs, not just tweak a canned product for each engagement! Experience AND training are key to offering great service to clients and building a great consulting practice. It is important to be able to respond to each set of circumstances and needs, not just tweak a canned product for each engagement!

]]> By: Tony http://www.contrarianconsulting.com/random-consulting-thoughts/#comment-2187 Tony Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:48:54 +0000 http://www.contrarianconsulting.com/random-consulting-thoughts/#comment-2187 Alan - this is a great line that could be said more to almost every company I have worked. "Long histories don't justify long futures for people, processes and businesses." Alan – this is a great line that could be said more to almost every company I have worked.

“Long histories don’t justify long futures for people, processes and businesses.”

]]> By: Alan Weiss http://www.contrarianconsulting.com/random-consulting-thoughts/#comment-2181 Alan Weiss Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:48:50 +0000 http://www.contrarianconsulting.com/random-consulting-thoughts/#comment-2181 We are debasing coaching and other practices as sure as we are debasing the currency. Always ask, "Who certifies the certifiers?" We are debasing coaching and other practices as sure as we are debasing the currency. Always ask, “Who certifies the
certifiers?”

]]> By: michael cardus http://www.contrarianconsulting.com/random-consulting-thoughts/#comment-2180 michael cardus Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:58:25 +0000 http://www.contrarianconsulting.com/random-consulting-thoughts/#comment-2180 Alan, I have heard your "ski instructor principle" before in your work. Although it never really stuck. Until now. The other day an "executive coach" called me wanting to form an alliance with my Team Building company. I asked him to take about 30 minutes and talk me through his process etc... Great stories although he had little like you wrote all the certs, initials, equiptment. although as you say "have never gone up the hill" I see this more now with the Coaching term. Everyone is a coach, it is causing a liquidation of the brand. I am not a coach nor do I want to be called or be a coach. It is not what I have and enjoy doing. Alan,
I have heard your “ski instructor principle” before in your work. Although it never really stuck.
Until now. The other day an “executive coach” called me wanting to form an alliance with my Team Building company.

I asked him to take about 30 minutes and talk me through his process etc…
Great stories although he had little like you wrote all the certs, initials, equiptment. although as you say “have never gone up the hill”

I see this more now with the Coaching term. Everyone is a coach, it is causing a liquidation of the brand.

I am not a coach nor do I want to be called or be a coach. It is not what I have and enjoy doing.

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